Tempe, AZ- Steven Rinella talks with Wild Horse and Burro Coordinator Dr. Tolani Francisco, along with wildlife ecologist Dr. Karl Malcolm, and Janis Putelis of the MeatEater crew.

Subjects discussed: kids and the fundamentals of bow shooting; the Pueblo Revolt; the brief and glorious lifespan of the equestrian buffalo hunters of the Great Plains; where feral horses end and wild horses begin; the Blitzkrieg Hypothesis; horse fat in your ceramics; mustangers; wild horse holding yards and adoptions; the flameout of a Navajo horse hunt; dying while stuck in the mud; the baddest mofos of the Pleistocene; the NY Times has a big miss; mountain lions as wild horse predators; poleaxing; and more.

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