Steven Rinella talks with John Oakleaf, Vicente Ordonez, and Karl Malcolm of the US Forest Service, along with Janis Putelis of the MeatEater crew.

Subjects Discussed: Mexican gray wolves; taxonomic lumpers and splitters; historic sub-species of wolves in North America; Cormac McCarthy's The Border Trilogy; wolves and livestock depredation; the Endangered Species Act; tainted bait for trappin'; foothold traps for wolves; roadkill buffalo; how many elk do wolves kill?'; wandering wolves; a correction re: brevited and brigadier generals; and more.

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