On this week’s show we’re joined by MeatEater's Morgan Mason and Joe Ferronato recapping a day grouse hunting on public land in Montana. We learn about Phil the Engineer's rescue dog, Mango, and get real emotional. For the interview portion of the show we stop by the home of 81-year-old bird hunting author Ben O. Williams to talk about life, good dogs, fine European shotguns, and why he fell in love with hunting Hungarian partridge some 60 years ago. Enjoy.

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